LonerBox confronts an old friend in INSANE debate... Ft. Hutch & Mutahar
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Lonerbox addresses accusations of being a paid propagandist, questioning whether an invitation to Israel automatically implies bias. He also touches on Ethan Klein and news surrounding the situation.
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Edited by @smoltalkme
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
01:38 - Apparently, Hutch and Vadim are fighting...
02:15 - Discussing Hila's tattoo: Vadim forgets the context of the clip he's showing Hutch. Then, he remembers.
05:30 - Hila posted a picture of her tattoo, which was a Star of David. But it's blue, Vadim says.
08:54 - Lonerbox points out the double standard that Vadim is practicing. This guy associates with people who do this all the time, but worse.
14:31 - Hutch says, You want to contextualize the people that are harassing him, but you don't want to get in any kind of nuance whatsoever with the way he's reacting.
15:10 - Why is it hard for me to get you to say that it's fully unhinged, to accuse him and his wife of wanting Palestinian kids to die? asks Hutch.
19:23 - Hutch and Vadim get into it over the CPS call on Ethan Klein's kids: Do you think it was, coincidence that after a certain creator that I won't even name and Denims covered this shit on their socials, that immediately after someone called CPS on them?
28:41 - Hutch is trying to talk Vadim down off of the ledge he's on. Vadim DENIES he is on ANY LEDGE!
29:21 - Hutch and Vadim discuss the human skulls that were sent to Ethan Klein's house.
37:02 - Vadim brings up Taylor Lorenz in discussion with Hutch. Did Taylor Lorenz lie about Ethan Klein?
40:53 - Lonerbox on who Ethan Klein associates with - it's not even a contest with how much is tolerated Vadim's side versus on the Ethan H3 side.
53:17 - Vadim understands this. He made this argument with Lauren Southern with the Christchurch shooting - She was part of an ecosystem.
58:32 - Hasan Piker's irresponsible rhetoric and claims
1:07:14 - Hutch asks Vadim what he thinks about Hasan Piker accusing Lonerbox of being a paid Hasbara propagandist...
1:09:06 - He's lying. He's lying. says Lonerbox, of Vadim
1:12:14 - Lonerbox joins the call with Vadim and Hutch, to defend himself.
1:12:23 - Lonerbox and Vadim discuss Yishai Fletcher. Lonerbox confronts Vadim. You know this, we've spoken about it...
1:17:23 - Louis Theroux isn't particularly confrontational with his subjects. If a subject took his interview and put it on their channel, without his commentary, does that mean Louis Theroux did propaganda for them?
1:19:58 - We both know that I know this conflict better than you do, says Lonerbox to Vadim.
1:21:35 - We both agree that he was angry with my content. With the way that I covered that content. He was angry with my commentary on that interaction.
1:22:17 - Lonerbox confronts Vadim on the Propaganda Trip accusations.
1:23:25 - Thank you for confirming that you do not know absolute [_] about this country you have been talking about for the last 20 months.
1:28:36 - When have I ever lied to you, Vadim?
1:34:25 - Lonerbox exits the call, and goes back to watching Hutch and Vadim have their conversation.
1:35:34 - Vadim says to Hutch, You know what - Bring Mutahar in here if you want.
1:36:13 - Mutahar wants to ask Vadim questions about the harassment Ethan Klein has been receiving.
1:38:45 - Vadim says that Ethan Klein was putting stuff out that was Islamophobic. Mutahar starts pushing Vadim on exactly what.
1:39:44 - Vadim brings up the From The River to The Sea phrase.
1:42:45 - Mutahar asks Vadim, where does the chant originate from?
1:43:45 - Vadim brings up Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. Mutahar responds, That's not even equivalent at all.
1:46:53 - Lonerbox realizes - He doesn't know what he wants!
1:49:18 - Vadim asks Hutch to TERMINATE MUTAHAR!
1:50:16 - LONERBOX SOYFACE
1:52:59 - Do you think I would have a better time talking to you or a brick wall?
1:59:20 - Hutch, Mutahar, and Lonerbox have a group call.
1:59:43 - Lonerbox elaborates on From The River to The Sea phrase, the historical context of whether one state can work, etc.
2:08:17 - Mutahar talks about the real life repercussions of being labeled pro-genocide by Noah Samsen and his sphere online
2:14:21 - Looking to the future in the region
2:21:19 - ...You have like probably one of the most popular social movements in the world since BLM, and they've achieved absolutely nothing...
2:22:42 - Noah Samsen's reaction to the shooting
#hutch #ethanklein #lonerbox #mutahar
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Research notes: https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox
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Donate Directly to Loner: https://paypal.me/lonerbox
Edited by @smoltalkme
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
01:38 - Apparently, Hutch and Vadim are fighting...
02:15 - Discussing Hila's tattoo: Vadim forgets the context of the clip he's showing Hutch. Then, he remembers.
05:30 - Hila posted a picture of her tattoo, which was a Star of David. But it's blue, Vadim says.
08:54 - Lonerbox points out the double standard that Vadim is practicing. This guy associates with people who do this all the time, but worse.
14:31 - Hutch says, You want to contextualize the people that are harassing him, but you don't want to get in any kind of nuance whatsoever with the way he's reacting.
15:10 - Why is it hard for me to get you to say that it's fully unhinged, to accuse him and his wife of wanting Palestinian kids to die? asks Hutch.
19:23 - Hutch and Vadim get into it over the CPS call on Ethan Klein's kids: Do you think it was, coincidence that after a certain creator that I won't even name and Denims covered this shit on their socials, that immediately after someone called CPS on them?
28:41 - Hutch is trying to talk Vadim down off of the ledge he's on. Vadim DENIES he is on ANY LEDGE!
29:21 - Hutch and Vadim discuss the human skulls that were sent to Ethan Klein's house.
37:02 - Vadim brings up Taylor Lorenz in discussion with Hutch. Did Taylor Lorenz lie about Ethan Klein?
40:53 - Lonerbox on who Ethan Klein associates with - it's not even a contest with how much is tolerated Vadim's side versus on the Ethan H3 side.
53:17 - Vadim understands this. He made this argument with Lauren Southern with the Christchurch shooting - She was part of an ecosystem.
58:32 - Hasan Piker's irresponsible rhetoric and claims
1:07:14 - Hutch asks Vadim what he thinks about Hasan Piker accusing Lonerbox of being a paid Hasbara propagandist...
1:09:06 - He's lying. He's lying. says Lonerbox, of Vadim
1:12:14 - Lonerbox joins the call with Vadim and Hutch, to defend himself.
1:12:23 - Lonerbox and Vadim discuss Yishai Fletcher. Lonerbox confronts Vadim. You know this, we've spoken about it...
1:17:23 - Louis Theroux isn't particularly confrontational with his subjects. If a subject took his interview and put it on their channel, without his commentary, does that mean Louis Theroux did propaganda for them?
1:19:58 - We both know that I know this conflict better than you do, says Lonerbox to Vadim.
1:21:35 - We both agree that he was angry with my content. With the way that I covered that content. He was angry with my commentary on that interaction.
1:22:17 - Lonerbox confronts Vadim on the Propaganda Trip accusations.
1:23:25 - Thank you for confirming that you do not know absolute [_] about this country you have been talking about for the last 20 months.
1:28:36 - When have I ever lied to you, Vadim?
1:34:25 - Lonerbox exits the call, and goes back to watching Hutch and Vadim have their conversation.
1:35:34 - Vadim says to Hutch, You know what - Bring Mutahar in here if you want.
1:36:13 - Mutahar wants to ask Vadim questions about the harassment Ethan Klein has been receiving.
1:38:45 - Vadim says that Ethan Klein was putting stuff out that was Islamophobic. Mutahar starts pushing Vadim on exactly what.
1:39:44 - Vadim brings up the From The River to The Sea phrase.
1:42:45 - Mutahar asks Vadim, where does the chant originate from?
1:43:45 - Vadim brings up Black Lives Matter vs. All Lives Matter. Mutahar responds, That's not even equivalent at all.
1:46:53 - Lonerbox realizes - He doesn't know what he wants!
1:49:18 - Vadim asks Hutch to TERMINATE MUTAHAR!
1:50:16 - LONERBOX SOYFACE
1:52:59 - Do you think I would have a better time talking to you or a brick wall?
1:59:20 - Hutch, Mutahar, and Lonerbox have a group call.
1:59:43 - Lonerbox elaborates on From The River to The Sea phrase, the historical context of whether one state can work, etc.
2:08:17 - Mutahar talks about the real life repercussions of being labeled pro-genocide by Noah Samsen and his sphere online
2:14:21 - Looking to the future in the region
2:21:19 - ...You have like probably one of the most popular social movements in the world since BLM, and they've achieved absolutely nothing...
2:22:42 - Noah Samsen's reaction to the shooting
#hutch #ethanklein #lonerbox #mutahar