Debating Enlightened Centrist "PF Jung"
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Edited by @smoltalkme
00:00 Intro
00:39 Start
1:20 Introductions
2:55 PF Jung's radical position: the United States should cut off aid to Israel unless it removes the settlers from the West Bank
4:34 On extending demands to Israel that even haven't been made by Palestinians
10:40 Trying to determine deaths in the West Bank due to IDF vs. Settler violence
13:42 Do you agree that Ben-Gvir is as bad as any Hamas member? No.
21:01 Why don't we just give them 30 days to meet our demands and then cut off aid to Israel?
31:04 Lonerbox and PF Jung agree - ...of course, I think America should use their influence to rein in the worst excesses of the Israeli government.
37:45 PF Jung talks about solutions and the Palestinian psyche
40:31 Lonerbox points out ways and scenarios in which Hamas will claim victory
46:56 Lonerbox points out that people are fine dying if they are seeking justice as their main cause
48:57 Could anything be claimed as a success by Hamas?
53:00 PF Jung talks about the ways in which the United States could give ammunition to the left-wing Israelis to oust Netanyahu
54:04 Lonerbox talks about how they agree on principle, but he is skeptical of whether American pressure will do what PF Jung thinks it will, and also what a Hamas alternative would be
59:43 Post-conversation thoughts
#lonerbox #pfjung #israelpalestineconflict
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Research notes: https://publish.obsidian.md/lonerbox
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Donate Directly to Loner: https://paypal.me/lonerbox
Edited by @smoltalkme
00:00 Intro
00:39 Start
1:20 Introductions
2:55 PF Jung's radical position: the United States should cut off aid to Israel unless it removes the settlers from the West Bank
4:34 On extending demands to Israel that even haven't been made by Palestinians
10:40 Trying to determine deaths in the West Bank due to IDF vs. Settler violence
13:42 Do you agree that Ben-Gvir is as bad as any Hamas member? No.
21:01 Why don't we just give them 30 days to meet our demands and then cut off aid to Israel?
31:04 Lonerbox and PF Jung agree - ...of course, I think America should use their influence to rein in the worst excesses of the Israeli government.
37:45 PF Jung talks about solutions and the Palestinian psyche
40:31 Lonerbox points out ways and scenarios in which Hamas will claim victory
46:56 Lonerbox points out that people are fine dying if they are seeking justice as their main cause
48:57 Could anything be claimed as a success by Hamas?
53:00 PF Jung talks about the ways in which the United States could give ammunition to the left-wing Israelis to oust Netanyahu
54:04 Lonerbox talks about how they agree on principle, but he is skeptical of whether American pressure will do what PF Jung thinks it will, and also what a Hamas alternative would be
59:43 Post-conversation thoughts
#lonerbox #pfjung #israelpalestineconflict